I've got ties on the brain at the moment it seems, or clothes anyway, since my Donna round story was about dresses. But yeah, you picked out the 2 scenes that got me on the tie in the first place.

I'm just saying my personal take on S4 Sam is that he liked working in the White House, he thought they were making a big difference, doing good work.

I seeeeee... I have to confess (though maybe shouldn't) to not having seen much (or possibly any) of season 4, so I'm going on twop's reviews. I'll have to watch and see what i think now, you've made me curious!