I don't think it's a moral failing to criticise the dead and to say that in the final reckoning, they did more bad than good
Neither do I, and in fact I'm pretty sure I specifically said that I have no problem with people criticising her - I criticise her, it'd be pretty hypocritical to object to others doing so.
I said, I don't think it's OK to be so gleeful as some people are at her death. Assess her, criticise her, fine, but glee? She was still a person. And I don't think that satisfaction and relief are the same, or even close, to glee.
>Thatcher did nothing for other women; she called feminism "poison" and said she hated it
I know. She wasn't a feminist at all as far as I can tell, and she wasn't, as you say, a role model as a person. I meant more that, to me, it mattered to see a woman in power - not necessarily that particular woman, but a woman who was as high as it's possible to go in this country. I'm not championing the way she got there or what she did when she was there but also - male politicians trample on woman to get where they are, and undermine women when they get into power. did she really do anything different, other than be a woman while she did it? And if not, is it fair to expect more of her than any of them?
Those aren't meant to suggest that's what you're implying or what you believe, or to say that makes it ok, I'm just pondering, I suppose.
I don't want to defriend you for what you say - your response wasn't the kind I was thinking of when I said that, though I'm not sure how well I've articulated what I did mean.
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Neither do I, and in fact I'm pretty sure I specifically said that I have no problem with people criticising her - I criticise her, it'd be pretty hypocritical to object to others doing so.
I said, I don't think it's OK to be so gleeful as some people are at her death. Assess her, criticise her, fine, but glee? She was still a person. And I don't think that satisfaction and relief are the same, or even close, to glee.
>Thatcher did nothing for other women; she called feminism "poison" and said she hated it
I know. She wasn't a feminist at all as far as I can tell, and she wasn't, as you say, a role model as a person. I meant more that, to me, it mattered to see a woman in power - not necessarily that particular woman, but a woman who was as high as it's possible to go in this country. I'm not championing the way she got there or what she did when she was there but also - male politicians trample on woman to get where they are, and undermine women when they get into power. did she really do anything different, other than be a woman while she did it? And if not, is it fair to expect more of her than any of them?
Those aren't meant to suggest that's what you're implying or what you believe, or to say that makes it ok, I'm just pondering, I suppose.
I don't want to defriend you for what you say - your response wasn't the kind I was thinking of when I said that, though I'm not sure how well I've articulated what I did mean.