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bluflamingo) wrote2009-03-23 09:12 am
bluflamingo) wrote2009-03-23 09:12 am
Ugh, how is it Monday again already?
1. Woke up with an itchy throat, now I'm too hot and feel like I'm about to pass out. Isn't March too late to be getting a cold?
2. Why, when people ring up for appointments or advice, do they never, ever have a pen and paper to hand? Wouldn't that be something you'd want to write down?
3. So, I just read a story by an author I really like, who does an amazing job of writing John being in unrequited love for Rodney, and who did again this time. I was all ready to ramble on in comments about how much I loved this, and to favourite it, until I read the first couple of comments in which she and another commenter agreed that they really hate Jennifer for, basically, not getting out of the way and letting Rodney be with John, and how this story is kind of an embodiment of that - that it's partly written to make the readers dislike Jennifer for that reason.
Which would bug me anyway, but the story is 4000 words of John not saying anything to Rodney, and Rodney being oblivious (as noticed by several characters in the story). Jennifer knows, but she's the only one.
That totally turned me off the whole story (even though I hadn't read it that way at all). It's just - okay, yes, it's very sad to imagine John pining away for Rodney while he runs off to be with Jennifer, and Rodney makes all these changes to how he is in order to make Jennifer like him more, but it's not Jennifer's fault. I'm sure John has his reasons for not saying anything, but he and Rodney have been friends for 5 years and he's an adult - if he wanted Rodney that badly, he should have been able to say.
And it's not like Jennifer relentlessly persued Rodney (not that there'd be anything wrong with it if she had, but she didn't). She asked him for a drink, then a year later he told her he was in love with her. And she thought about whether she wanted to be with him or Ronon or (presumably) no-one and decided she wanted to be with him, then offered up the terms of a possible relationship - basically, be a little nicer - for him to accept or decline. And he accepted, in full possession of his faculties, being a bright adult, and thus is presumably happy with the arrangement.
Where in that is Jennifer a terrible person for deciding that, hey, he liked me and made it clear he wanted to date me, I like him and want to date him, so lets date and (eventually) get married? She's with Rodney after they mutually agreed that they wanted to be together, John never said anything about liking him, Rodney gives no particular indication that he wants to be with John not her (because, really, it's not like Rodney *has* to date someone. If he didn't want to because he secretly lusted after John, he could have stayed single. As John does). Poor John, very sad, but, you know - Jennifer took action to be with Rodney, John didn't. Them's the breaks, as they say. It'd be different if Rodney knew how John felt and wanted him back and broke up with her and she was refusing to let it go, but he doesn't and he hasn't.
As I said, it's very sad for John, but dating Rodney when John wants to doesn't make Jennifer a bad person. How is this not obvious to everyone else?
2. Why, when people ring up for appointments or advice, do they never, ever have a pen and paper to hand? Wouldn't that be something you'd want to write down?
3. So, I just read a story by an author I really like, who does an amazing job of writing John being in unrequited love for Rodney, and who did again this time. I was all ready to ramble on in comments about how much I loved this, and to favourite it, until I read the first couple of comments in which she and another commenter agreed that they really hate Jennifer for, basically, not getting out of the way and letting Rodney be with John, and how this story is kind of an embodiment of that - that it's partly written to make the readers dislike Jennifer for that reason.
Which would bug me anyway, but the story is 4000 words of John not saying anything to Rodney, and Rodney being oblivious (as noticed by several characters in the story). Jennifer knows, but she's the only one.
That totally turned me off the whole story (even though I hadn't read it that way at all). It's just - okay, yes, it's very sad to imagine John pining away for Rodney while he runs off to be with Jennifer, and Rodney makes all these changes to how he is in order to make Jennifer like him more, but it's not Jennifer's fault. I'm sure John has his reasons for not saying anything, but he and Rodney have been friends for 5 years and he's an adult - if he wanted Rodney that badly, he should have been able to say.
And it's not like Jennifer relentlessly persued Rodney (not that there'd be anything wrong with it if she had, but she didn't). She asked him for a drink, then a year later he told her he was in love with her. And she thought about whether she wanted to be with him or Ronon or (presumably) no-one and decided she wanted to be with him, then offered up the terms of a possible relationship - basically, be a little nicer - for him to accept or decline. And he accepted, in full possession of his faculties, being a bright adult, and thus is presumably happy with the arrangement.
Where in that is Jennifer a terrible person for deciding that, hey, he liked me and made it clear he wanted to date me, I like him and want to date him, so lets date and (eventually) get married? She's with Rodney after they mutually agreed that they wanted to be together, John never said anything about liking him, Rodney gives no particular indication that he wants to be with John not her (because, really, it's not like Rodney *has* to date someone. If he didn't want to because he secretly lusted after John, he could have stayed single. As John does). Poor John, very sad, but, you know - Jennifer took action to be with Rodney, John didn't. Them's the breaks, as they say. It'd be different if Rodney knew how John felt and wanted him back and broke up with her and she was refusing to let it go, but he doesn't and he hasn't.
As I said, it's very sad for John, but dating Rodney when John wants to doesn't make Jennifer a bad person. How is this not obvious to everyone else?
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Because he can only ever be happy with Rodney, of course, and Rodney's been brainwashed by Keller into being with her. Sorry, sarcasm set to high there! But I do think a big part of the problem is that most people write John/Rodney, and are also weirdly invested in not breaking up Rodney and Keller, which does kind of stump them when it comes to John. I'd say they should all convert to Cam/John, but I suspect if they did there'd just be a huge rise in fics where John leaves Cam for Rodney because Rodney's his one true love, or Cam is written as abusive and horrible for one reason or another, since most of the Rodney fans seem to hate Cam.
The only one I can remember reading is 'Never As Bad As Anticipated Until It Is' which I loved.
:o)))) (Sorry, I'm not sure if you know or not, but I wrote that, so you just made me very happy!)
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I can actually remember reading a story where John is with somebody else and gets a call from Rodney saying he broke it off with Jennifer and John breaks it off with the guy to be with Rodney. And though I'm all for John and Rodney to be together in the end it left me very unsatified. I really don't want him to crawl back to Rodney, I think the crawling should be done by Rodney (and a lot of it...).
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Yeah. I'd love to read more stories where John turns down Rodney when he comes crawling along after ending things with Keller for whatever reason, because John's moved on and found someone else.
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Yes, yes and yes. *keeping fingers crossed for those kind of stories*
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There'll never be many stories where these kinds of things happen, I don't think, because the McKay/Sheppard people tend to write John taking Rodney in, and everyone else tends to skip over John/Rodney angst most of the time.