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bluflamingo) wrote2009-03-23 09:12 am
bluflamingo) wrote2009-03-23 09:12 am
Ugh, how is it Monday again already?
1. Woke up with an itchy throat, now I'm too hot and feel like I'm about to pass out. Isn't March too late to be getting a cold?
2. Why, when people ring up for appointments or advice, do they never, ever have a pen and paper to hand? Wouldn't that be something you'd want to write down?
3. So, I just read a story by an author I really like, who does an amazing job of writing John being in unrequited love for Rodney, and who did again this time. I was all ready to ramble on in comments about how much I loved this, and to favourite it, until I read the first couple of comments in which she and another commenter agreed that they really hate Jennifer for, basically, not getting out of the way and letting Rodney be with John, and how this story is kind of an embodiment of that - that it's partly written to make the readers dislike Jennifer for that reason.
Which would bug me anyway, but the story is 4000 words of John not saying anything to Rodney, and Rodney being oblivious (as noticed by several characters in the story). Jennifer knows, but she's the only one.
That totally turned me off the whole story (even though I hadn't read it that way at all). It's just - okay, yes, it's very sad to imagine John pining away for Rodney while he runs off to be with Jennifer, and Rodney makes all these changes to how he is in order to make Jennifer like him more, but it's not Jennifer's fault. I'm sure John has his reasons for not saying anything, but he and Rodney have been friends for 5 years and he's an adult - if he wanted Rodney that badly, he should have been able to say.
And it's not like Jennifer relentlessly persued Rodney (not that there'd be anything wrong with it if she had, but she didn't). She asked him for a drink, then a year later he told her he was in love with her. And she thought about whether she wanted to be with him or Ronon or (presumably) no-one and decided she wanted to be with him, then offered up the terms of a possible relationship - basically, be a little nicer - for him to accept or decline. And he accepted, in full possession of his faculties, being a bright adult, and thus is presumably happy with the arrangement.
Where in that is Jennifer a terrible person for deciding that, hey, he liked me and made it clear he wanted to date me, I like him and want to date him, so lets date and (eventually) get married? She's with Rodney after they mutually agreed that they wanted to be together, John never said anything about liking him, Rodney gives no particular indication that he wants to be with John not her (because, really, it's not like Rodney *has* to date someone. If he didn't want to because he secretly lusted after John, he could have stayed single. As John does). Poor John, very sad, but, you know - Jennifer took action to be with Rodney, John didn't. Them's the breaks, as they say. It'd be different if Rodney knew how John felt and wanted him back and broke up with her and she was refusing to let it go, but he doesn't and he hasn't.
As I said, it's very sad for John, but dating Rodney when John wants to doesn't make Jennifer a bad person. How is this not obvious to everyone else?
2. Why, when people ring up for appointments or advice, do they never, ever have a pen and paper to hand? Wouldn't that be something you'd want to write down?
3. So, I just read a story by an author I really like, who does an amazing job of writing John being in unrequited love for Rodney, and who did again this time. I was all ready to ramble on in comments about how much I loved this, and to favourite it, until I read the first couple of comments in which she and another commenter agreed that they really hate Jennifer for, basically, not getting out of the way and letting Rodney be with John, and how this story is kind of an embodiment of that - that it's partly written to make the readers dislike Jennifer for that reason.
Which would bug me anyway, but the story is 4000 words of John not saying anything to Rodney, and Rodney being oblivious (as noticed by several characters in the story). Jennifer knows, but she's the only one.
That totally turned me off the whole story (even though I hadn't read it that way at all). It's just - okay, yes, it's very sad to imagine John pining away for Rodney while he runs off to be with Jennifer, and Rodney makes all these changes to how he is in order to make Jennifer like him more, but it's not Jennifer's fault. I'm sure John has his reasons for not saying anything, but he and Rodney have been friends for 5 years and he's an adult - if he wanted Rodney that badly, he should have been able to say.
And it's not like Jennifer relentlessly persued Rodney (not that there'd be anything wrong with it if she had, but she didn't). She asked him for a drink, then a year later he told her he was in love with her. And she thought about whether she wanted to be with him or Ronon or (presumably) no-one and decided she wanted to be with him, then offered up the terms of a possible relationship - basically, be a little nicer - for him to accept or decline. And he accepted, in full possession of his faculties, being a bright adult, and thus is presumably happy with the arrangement.
Where in that is Jennifer a terrible person for deciding that, hey, he liked me and made it clear he wanted to date me, I like him and want to date him, so lets date and (eventually) get married? She's with Rodney after they mutually agreed that they wanted to be together, John never said anything about liking him, Rodney gives no particular indication that he wants to be with John not her (because, really, it's not like Rodney *has* to date someone. If he didn't want to because he secretly lusted after John, he could have stayed single. As John does). Poor John, very sad, but, you know - Jennifer took action to be with Rodney, John didn't. Them's the breaks, as they say. It'd be different if Rodney knew how John felt and wanted him back and broke up with her and she was refusing to let it go, but he doesn't and he hasn't.
As I said, it's very sad for John, but dating Rodney when John wants to doesn't make Jennifer a bad person. How is this not obvious to everyone else?
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I have a slightly obsessive thing about romance in films and tv shows, because to me it always comes across as 'it's not enough that you're saving the world/exloring the galaxy/have a family and friends who love you, you *have* to have a partner before you can be really happy/successful'. Though in this case, I'm with you about the execution being even more annoying.
It didn't help that Keller's been openly dismissive or contemptuous of two of my favorite characters for no clear cause. Though that's not necessarily a failing of the writing
I dunno - the writers do seem to go randomly up and down about characters for no reason, or try to make them out to be what they're not. Just out of curioity - one has to be Zelenka, I remember her and Sam talking about him in Trio - who's the other one she's dismissive of?
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I realize Keller might be smarting a bit over him not moving fast enough or deciding he wasn't interested in her after all (it was never clear to me exactly which happened), but that would be better expressed in choice of whom to sit with at lunch or movie night.
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Yeah - it kind of got written like she just woke up one morning and thought 'you know what, I want Rodney.' Which, maybe she did, but it was a little random.