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[bluflamingo]

Made my word count, finished the story, so - Choose from one of the below memes, and I'll answer it.

a. Give me a pairing(/threesome/moresome) and I'll tell you my favorite get-together plot

b. Pick a character and I will give and explain the top five ideas/concepts/etc I keep in mind while writing that character that I believe are essential to accurately depicting them

c. Tell me a pairing, and I will tell you:

1. When or if I started shipping them:
2. What I think their challenge is:
3. What makes me happy about them:
4. What makes me sad about them:
5. What moment I wish had never happened:
6. Who I'd be comfortable them ending up with, if not each other:
7. My happily ever after for them:

Comments

[fyrefly101]

a) Lorne, Cam and John. I realise I owe you feedback for something you wrote for me, but I've been trying to be really pro-active, and focused on job hunting recently. This is a good reminder I really need to go back and comment. But, for now, if you are so inclined, the above-named trio :)

[bluflamingo]

Good luck with the job hunting, even though it sucks. The right job is out there, it's just waiting for you.

Okay, Lorne, Cam and John get together plot...

I actually think Two Weeks is pretty close to the start of this. so: Lorne and Cam were friends with benefits for a while in their past, then they got deployed apart and stayed just friends, and now they're a bit more than friends with benefits, but they're also in spearate galaxies, so it's difficult to get a definition working. John and Lorne hooked up briefly in Bosnia after Lorne's team were killed around him and John went in to pull him out, and Lorne had a bit of a breakdown after. And now they just quietly want each other. John and Cam met while John was still with Nancy, and they both think about more, but they're friends, and anyway, now Cam and Lorne have each other.

So here they all are, in two galaxies, with all this history, and kind of wanting but not sayng. And then Enemy At The Gate happens, and John drifts apart from the team, and one day Lorne says, hey, Cam and I are going to hit a bar, come with, as a kind of idle offer, which he ends up really pushing for because John hesitates and says no, looking really wistful. And Cam just blinks and goes with it when Lorne turns up with John.

So John keeps going out with them, and he knows about them, and he feels better in a way for being included and worse in another way because he wants more, and he's worried Lorne will stay on Earth for Cam, and worried Lorne won't, and Lorne and Cam will end up hurting and just... Ugh. Where's a Wraith attack when you need one?

Fortunately, Lorne and Cam have him figured out, and they draw him in and in and in and one evening it's late, and they're in Cam's apartment, and John says, "I should go," and Lorne catches his wrist, and says, "No, you should stay." And to everyone's surprise, they actually don't fall into bed, they sit up all night talking about it, and talking round it, because apparently this is what it takes to get John Sheppard to talk fluently about his feelings. Then they fall into bed, sleep for five hours, and wake up and have sex. Which is kind of backwards, but its taken them somewhere aorund twenty years to get there, so.

And then they steal Cam and take him back to Pegasus with them, and Vala hitches a ride because Daniel finally got posted out there, and Sam's always dropping in, and Teal'c promises to visit, and both John and Lorne absolutely refuse to have Cam on their teams, no way, absolutely not. And they all live happily ever after (with Wraith attacks)

[scrollgirl]

Meme A: John/Ronon get-together plot!

Meme A: John/Cam get-together plot! If you have time...

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b) Sam Carter

[bluflamingo]

John/Ronon: I'm not sure this is the most likely, but this is the one I like to imagine. Ronon drifts in and out of verious short-term relationships after Atlantis goes back to Pegasus, but he never gets serious about any of them, and with Teyla and Rodney settling down with their partners, John and Ronon are basically the most important people in each other's worlds, but stick to friends.

Then word comes through that don't ask don't tell got repealed, and John goes along to Ronon's room and says, "I think we could be good together. Want to give it a try?" And it's not exactly romantic, but it's been six years at this point, and they're way past the classic romance moments. Because Ronon, of course, says yes :)


John/Cam: They meet in the air force and fall into bed together after just about managing to exchange names. Which is not the get-together part, that's just how it starts. It's more than casual, and they both know it but don't say it: Cam takes John home for Thanksgiving, John introduces Cam to his mom and her partner. But, well, life in the air force, and "I want to stay with my secret boyfriend" doesn't work as an excuse not to be deployed. So they write, occasionally, and call less, and sometimes run into each other, in between relationships and disasters and, you know, John getting married for a while.

And then Holland is killed, and John is sent back to the US and calls Cam's brother, hoping to catch up with him, and finds out that Cam is in hospital and it was touch and go for a while, after Antarctica. It's probably a bad idea to go visit, but he goes anyway, and Cam's kind of drugged up, but he holds tight to John's hand, and John pretends not to be babbling all the things they never said to each other.

Then a year apart where they write and call every week, more often. Then a year with no contact. Then a chance meeting at the SGC, and it's like everything clicking into place and things... make sense. John goes back to Atlantis, and Cam goes off with SG1, and they both think that, when all this is over, there's going to be something waiting for them

[bluflamingo]

1. She's smarter than everyone around her, and she doesn't believe in being self-effacing about it, not when it's self-evidently true. People have sometimes told her that she'll never get respected being an outspoken woman, or that she'll never get a man if they all think she's smarter than them, but who wants the respect of anyone who thinks of her that way, and who wants a man who wants his partner to be the dumb one?

2. She fooled around with a few women when she was younger, and she wouldn't object to settling down with a woman, but she doesn't think she will. She's too fixed in everyone's minds as straight

3. She loves the concept of a relationship with Jack O'Neill more than she loves the reality of it, and she knew that going in. It hasn't been meant to be for years, if it ever was. She's not as sad about that as she always thought she would be

4. She loved being in charge of Atlantis, but she loves being in charge of her ship more. In Atlantis, she was always Dr Weir's replacement. On the Hammond, she's the commander and she's in control, and she loves it

5. She'd like a child someday, but she never wants one enough to give up what she'd have to give up to have one. Instead, she has Cassie, and the various kids of various SGC team members, who all end up with a mountain full of aunts and uncles, and some times she regrets it, but not often. She thinks it might be greedy to ask to leave behind two legacies, and she doesn't want to tempt fate

[scrollgirl]

I gotta admit, the one thing that intrigues me most about your get-together scenarios is John's mom and her partner. I like that you have that backstory, but I've always assumed his mom was dead based on "Letters from Pegasus". OTOH, I've written John's dad as surviving his heart-attack, so why not have his mom be alive? But I really like the idea of John having one parent, at least, as well as his step-mom, who is supportive about his relationship with Cam.

And it's not exactly romantic, but it's been six years at this point, and they're way past the classic romance moments. Because Ronon, of course, says yes :)

I can absolutely see this. I do think Ronon has a romantic streak, but that it would manifest itself with John differently than with Keller--it's gendered, to a degree, if that makes sense.

[scrollgirl]

3. She loves the concept of a relationship with Jack O'Neill more than she loves the reality of it, and she knew that going in. It hasn't been meant to be for years, if it ever was. She's not as sad about that as she always thought she would be

Yes, that's it exactly.

Really like your other thoughts too.

[lady_anarial]

b) Evan Lorne

[bluflamingo]

I like that you have that backstory, but I've always assumed his mom was dead based on "Letters from Pegasus".

Oh no, in my head she's dead by then as well! She leaves while John's in college, and he has very little to do with his father after that, spending all his holidays with his mom and Sarah, including one Christmas with Cam. She and Sarah are killed in a car accident the year after that, when John's still a captain - quite young - and John and Cam get deployed apart.

[bluflamingo]

1. He's gay, and he's been aware of that since he was a teenager, so he's used to just getting on with his life. He doesn't lie about imaginary girlfriends, but he doesn't talk about actual boyfriends either; he has no idea what people assume about his sexuality, most of the time.

2. He grew up with his mom, who was a single parent, and his older sister; his mom had both of them on purpose, with one night stands who she never intended to have stick around. They grew up in a communey type house, which he loved.

3. This isn't exactly an idea I use, but I don't know why, in my head, he joined the air force. Sheppard I do - his mom flew, before she had kids, and Mitchell is easy, cos of his dad. Lorne, I haven't figured out the jump from commune growing up to AF as an adult.

4. He considers Sheppard a friend, and Ronon a good friend. He respects Teyla, but not quite as a friend; he still doesn't like McKay, at least partially because McKay accused Cadman of planting the bomb, and Cadman is Lorne's best friend, so he's loyal to her. He's the token military officer in Keller's circle of scientist friends, but he likes being there, and cares for them, so he doesn't mind

5. He's really good at keeping secrets - partly because he's kept his own big ones for years. He isn't interested in gossip, and never gets any good stuff directly, but if he needs to know something, Keller, Zelenka, or Katie Brown will always tell him

[skieswideopen]

I love her confidence in #1, and I love #4, because yeah, being the first commander rather than the replacement has to be easier in so many ways.

[skieswideopen]

I like that whole John/Ronon get-together story, John just coming right out and saying something once it's safe to do so.

(I'd have found that final scene with John all alone so depressing if I hadn't imagine him driving over to Cam's place afterward!)

[skieswideopen]

I love the idea that Lorne knows and accepts he's gay, and keeps it private but doesn't actively try to cover it up. That seems to suit the character, and I love the integrity of it.

[fyrefly101]

Ug, my million apologies for a slow, slow reply.

Yes, where is a Wraith attack when you need it? :D Because never mind feelings, but mix friends, and colleagues, and pre-existing relationships, and I can see it causes mental meltdown all round.

Sleeping first, then sex? Ha. Because anything else just *would* have been too conventional.

Nice. Really nice. Plus, I'm mostly a sucker for the happily-ever-after ending. Thanks for this.

[fyrefly101]

#1 and #3. Spot on.