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[bluflamingo]

Or, with the more realistic end-point of 80,000 words:



Most of this week has ben about Teyla and the Athosians (though I did get to write movie night on Atlantis, which was a lot of fun), which has, of course, led to a whole lot of stuff that I wasn't anticipating when I started that story-line, like what Michael would do if he went to capture the Athosians and couldn't get them. For which I actually have a solution, but, gah, changing the plot of an entire season is a lot more work that it seemed when I started.

Oh yeah, that whole, then Cam and John have sex thing I was talking about this time last week? Still haven't written it. It's totally in the next scene or two, I swear. Maybe.

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[dracotelitha.livejournal.com]

I come with an epiphany that I promised ages ago and only just now typed it so I could share it!

Her eyebrows all the way up into her hairline, eyes the size of plates, and her jaw, slack open. Her expression was such that Allison Blake, the head of Global Dynamics, did not exude dignity, grace, or respect. In fact, she was so far from that the only way she could make it worse was if she stripped naked and did a dance on her desk.

Okay so yes completely different from SGA but this single paragraph suddenly made me understand and like Weir! It just hit me that Weir could strip naked and do a dance on her desk and still be respected because that's just who she is and she's been at what she does for so long that you could have Sumner resurrect from the dead in a clown suit and tutu as half wraith and she'd be like "Okay, how can I make sure to smooth over this as much as possible?" She could be silly and exasperated and the people on Atlantis would still lay down their lives for her. Yeah that was my epiphany that may or may not have the same effect on you.

[bluflamingo.livejournal.com]

I dunno - I think that's what the show's writers wanted us to think, but I'm not sure they ever did a convincing job of showing it. Or at least, I never felt convinced by it. It was like they thought that if they just said she was a kick-ass negotiator often enough, we'd believe it.

Although I love the way she gets written in fic, so that she actually does fit with what you've said. I think I would have been more interested in her if she'd been that way.

[bruinsfan.livejournal.com]

I think that they were pretty convincing about it in those scenes from "The Siege, Part 2" where she went to the Genii and ended up brokering a deal while blindfolded in an interrogation room. That's really the only time I felt her diplomatic skills were effectively highlighted, although we did see some strong leadership out of her in other instances. Usually when one version or another of her was performing self-sacrifice to save the people under her command.

I do wish that instead of just telling Sheppard and McKay to "fix it" in "The Game" she had pursued the tactic of revealing to the respective government representatives that for two years every aspect of their societies had been unknowlingly shaped by men behaving like squabbling twelve-year-olds, and appealed to them as responsible adults to find a more mature way to settle their differences.

[bluflamingo.livejournal.com]

I think that they were pretty convincing about it in those scenes from "The Siege, Part 2" where she went to the Genii and ended up brokering a deal while blindfolded in an interrogation room.

True, I tend to forget about that one. But then there's a lot of stuff like The Game, where, okay, I can see that the episode wouldn't have worked if she'd been successful, but it seemed like she spent five minutes with them before deciding it wouldn't work - that doesn't exactly scream exceptional negotiator to me.

[10pmpacifictime.livejournal.com]

I think Elizabeth was awesome. Especially when they first introduced the character and in moments where she wasn't around Rodney or John (dealing with the IOA, "Real World," Intruder) But way too often she ended up playing mom/principal to John and Rodney's BS.

While I don't doubt that Sheppard and Weir liked and cared for one another, I don't think he was anymore respectful of her than he was of his military commanders. With Weir, in Atlantis, it was just easier to get away with it.

[bluflamingo.livejournal.com]

I was always kind of ambivalent about her - she had moments of being very cool, as you say, but then moments when it seemed like she just couldn't be bothered, like in The Game.

While I don't doubt that Sheppard and Weir liked and cared for one another, I don't think he was anymore respectful of her than he was of his military commanders.

I dunno - in a lot of ways, their styles of leadership were too different to work without some kind of agreed compromise, and Sheppard's not really a compromise person; he definitely got away with a lot, as you say, maybe because she didn't exactly have authority over him? Okay, yes, she was the expedition leader, but there wasn't a lot she cold do if he disobeyed her, short of sending him back to Earth.