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bluflamingo: Sam leaning on hand (Sam leaning on hand)
Saturday, March 9th, 2013 02:32 pm
The comments on this article at feministe make me so angry.

The article is about how choosing to take your husband's name on marriage is not a feminist choice, and that, essentially, the reasons many people give for doing this aren't really great feminist reasons (which doesn't make women who do this unfeminist, just that this isn't a feminist choice) and that feminism isn't actually about 'I'm a woman, it's my choice, therefore it's feminist.' The comments are full of people raging at the author for daring to say that the choice they made isn't a feminist one, and their reasons aren't feminist. That she's attacking them for their choices. That she's going after 'low-hanging fruit' and has chosen a totally ridiculous 'hill to die on.'

And reading it, I just think - could you even acknowledge how fucking lucky you are that you can marry the person you want to be with? And that there's convention for what happens to your name afterwards? And that you can make a choice to adhere to tradition, because it exists? Without being judged for that decision (and no, what the article says is not judging)? That your relationship is steeped in centuries of privilege for being a woman who wants to be with a man, and this is the one thing about it that you're going to be told is maybe not so ok?

Because, right now, my country is debating whether I even have the right to marry a hypothetical future woman I love, or whether I should carry on having a second class ceremony. People are arguing that religious beliefs (by which they mean Christian) trump what should be rights. That letting gay people marry will somehow damage young children. That it's OK to publicly say 'I think that if you're gay you should have fewer rights,' without fear of any kind of actual real reprisal. Because, basically, homophobia's OK.

Right now, I wish my biggest problem around marriage was whether a feminist on the internet thinks that my decision to follow tradition isn't very feminist.

Two name-related anecdotes...

My sister got married a little over a year ago, and it honestly never occurred to me that she'd take her husband's name until a few months before the wedding. I don't know why not, since she's very traditional. I remember saying to my mum that it's like she's no longer identified with our family - because it is. She's not identified as a new family with him, she's identified as part of his birth family, not ours.

I want to change my last name. I want to take my mother's maiden name, for many reasons, including practical ones like it's a lot easier for people to spell than my current last name, and ideological ones like, I have a troubled relationship with my father and his mother, and my blood-grandfather, who died long before I was born, sounds like someone I would be scared of, but I love my mother's family, and want to show that I belong to them. When I told this to my mother, she said that if I changed my name, it would be like I no longer identified as her daughter. Totally not the same when my sister does it though, because she's marrying a man and that's what you do.

Is my choice more feminist than my sister's? I have no idea. But it's a hell of a lot less acceptable, less normal, more likely to be commented on, more expensive, more complicated.

But yeah, what sucks is being told that your choice to take your husband's name isn't feminist.
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Wednesday, June 8th, 2011 07:40 pm
[personal profile] seekergeek wrote a post about why she doesn't like Sheppard/Mitchell stories. Which I should have known better than to go read, because they're my pairing and I knew it would bother me, but sadly, I'm too curious for my own good so I went and read it, and some of the comments.

Good news? She's not bashing the pairing.

Bad news: She just thinks all of us who write it do a shit job of writing John.

"The thing that all the stories (at least the ones I've tried, at any rate) have had in common is that John always seems to be utterly helpless and without any agency to act on his own behalf. Is it some weird perception on my part, or do any of you see Cam sucking all the life out of John in stories with this pairing too?"

And, I mean, I disagree wildly, obviously. But I'm kind of hurt as well. Because if she's read Cam/John fic, she's probably read some of mine, and she's probably read some of the stuff I love, by people I like and whose fic I like, and it's not really presented as her opinion, it's really more presented as fact (yes, ok, "is is some weird perception on my part" but the implied answer is "no")

Well, except for fic by busaikko, who, don't get me wrong, is an awesome author who does a great job of writing this pairing and many others, but she's also fairly new to it, so again implication that all of the older John/Cam writers suck at it.

It remind me of the first round of the flyboys ficathon, when all the established Mcshep writers came and played in the John/Cam pool and were raved about. Would have thought the established John/Cam people didn't exist though.

Maybe it's just that I'm bitter because I feel like I'm being implicitly criticised and I don't like it (she doesn't have to like the pairing, but that doesn't mean none of the people writing it can write. I don't like Ronon/Rodney, but I'm sure some of the people writing it do a great job). Maybe I'm just annoyed because there's the usual "what about Rodney?" - um, he's not necessarily John's most important relationship, actually. The people John talks to are Teyla and Ronon, he plays with Rodney, and I'm not saying Rodney's not important to him, but no-one's arguing that you can't write about John without including Ronon and Teyla.

And yes, my own stupid fault for reading something I probably could have told you would bother me, so in a way I've no right to complain, but I wasn't actually expecting to be told we all suck as writers in a post about why she doesn't like the pairing.

ETA: Wow, okay, her comment while closing comments is, "Listen up, stans: my criticizing fic that you love does not constitute a personal attack on you" - um, no, but actually saying that we all write John badly in fic that you don't like does constitute a personal attack, and since she doesn't name names, it's implicitly on everyone who writes the pairing. Which I would guess is what people are bothered by.
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Wednesday, January 13th, 2010 10:34 pm
Oh God, are we doing 'women writing m/m slash are just fetishizing gay male relationships' again already? Really?

Okay, I've missed most of the debate because I don't want to read it, so I can't exactly claim to be knowledgeably commenting about what people are saying, beyond the bits other people are quoting when they link, but can I just say for the record:

Not all of us write m/m, or f/f fic because we think it's hot. Some of us write it because in our world, people are gay, and since we're not going to see gay space explorers or gay marines or gay FBI agents on our tv screens any time soon, we have to write it ourselves, so we do.

Because in my world, Lorne's gay and John's bi, and so's Cadman, and probably Cam. And Colby. I'm not pretending they are because I think they're pretty together, and I know I'm not supposed to read them that way, but authorial intent actually doesn't matter, and I do think they are. And if they are, and it's a relationship story, since they're grown adults, they sometimes have sex, and if I'm bothering to write it, yes, I try to make it sexy, because it should be, as a general thing, like horror should be scary (which is why I don't write it).

I'm not totally sure what my point is, other than 'if I see one more thing about how all slash fic is by straight women either getting off on two men in bed together, or just trying to be edgy,' I shall scream.

Also: gay and bi women do exist, and we do write slash fic, male and female, and it wouldn't kill all the gay men who seem to be complaining about slash fic to remember that once in a while, because the more they don't, the more I'm disinclined to bother to listen to what they have to say, since I don't like being invisible, and I don't like being told off by someone who doesn't seem like they've got all the facts before they started.

Also: fucking talk to me when you're ready to talk about people fetishizing gay women in their fic, if you're talking about it for gay men. Personally, I say, if you want to write any kind of fic, knock yourself out (just don't make me read the het, I get bored), but, seriously, either it's fine to write f/f *and* m/m or it's not fine to write either. And if your argument is basically 'it's derogatory to a marginalised group,' yes, you need to be talking about people writing about gay women in there somewhere as well, no matter how much less prevalent it is. Otherwise, you're not fighting discrimination, you're just complaining (like me, but then I'm not claiming that I'm fighting discrimination, I'm just pointing out what's pissed me off today).

Also: actually, I don't care what you think about me and people like me and what we do for fun. We're not hurting you (which, yes, I do feel I can say, since I'm a gay woman and people write f/f fic) so just leave us alone to get on with it in peace, please.

And no, if you were wondering, I'm not having a great week, and my patience is severely limited.
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Friday, December 12th, 2008 11:24 pm
I don't get writer's block - why do I have it *now* with a week to go before my [livejournal.com profile] yuletide story is due and nothing written?!

Also - why are the people on [livejournal.com profile] sgastoryfinders always looking for stories where John's a complete bastard, and particularly where he's a complete bastard to Rodney after Trinity which is (a) totally unsupported by canon (b) totally unsupported by John's characterisation (c) totally unsupported by *Rodney's* charcaterisation, since he's usually the poor defenseless, helpless guy who hides away in his room because no-one *looves* him (d) kind of offensive to their whole trade off saving each other's lives thing and (e) something else that I now can't remember. I mean, I get that fandom is full of people who think Rodney is a poor tragic woobie who just wants to be loved but good God, could people please get a grip and stop with the whole John's evil and horrible and doesn't care about him thing? Have they *seen* the way John looks at Rodney lately?

Also also - Rodney's hardly blameless in Trinity, he nearly blew up himself and John after promising John could trust him. John saying Rodney can earn back his trust is a fairly reasonable reaction, not an indication that he's planning to shun Rodney even through Rodney being injured/sick/suicidal/attacked etc.

And while we're on the subject of Atlantis - could someone please gag Mallozi and give him mittens so he can't type? As much as I love the idea that Vega was gay and into Keller (which, ha! I totally called that in Search and Rescue) it's offensive to say that now they've kiled her. And also - people can just go on thinking that x character who's gay in his head is straight until Mallozi reveals who it is? Yeah, I think there's a pretty good chance that at least some of us are happily thinking he's gay, and seriously, he'd have been better off saying nothing.

That said, I still respect Atlantis more than almost any other show on tv at the moment, because John once asked Ronon if he was seeing a woman or a man like it was a totally normal thing to be asking, and how many shows have you seen lately where the possibility of someone being in a same-sex relationship is just a passing comment, not a major plot point? (I don't count Torchwood, because it has its own skeevy sexuality issues. Don't ask me about them if you actually like the show or John Barrowman). It's unspeakably depressing that it takes such a small acknowledgment of the existence of gay people to make me respect a show.

Okay, now I feel better. No less stuck, but better for ranting :)
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